Naturally to us mainstream Dems, Matalin used "Liberal" as a pejorative, and now Trump has extended to "Liberal Democrats" (ie all of us). Meanwhile, Carville knows that National elections are won by the middle. I sometimes have to stump for our party as you do, I'm proud to state the Dems track record on budgets, inclusiveness, mainstream environmentalism, but (like Carville) cringe at things like "Defund the Police" and letting newly minted Trans women compete against Cis women in sports (not right nor where votes are). I start out defending people like Bernie as "Social Dems" before I realize they really are Socialists (plus w little fiscal sense). I found it appalling that about 45% of women in 2016 voted for Trump. Golden opportunity for Dems to take back "family values" and "fiscal responsibility" now that Trump/DeSantis have gone so far-right (and non-libertarian) whacko. We need to stop branding ourselves as the party of libertines, quit serving up far-left softballs that MAGA idiots can use against us. Also, we stand to lose Black and Hispanic votes if we pander too much (many have Centrist values). Maybe we should double down on "responsible marriage", inclusive of LG, agree on some abortion compromise (12 weeks, except case of Mom's health). Carville might agree that to cut into that "45% of women voting for P*ssy grabber" number, we need to market "a woman should be free to have a career, children, or both". Trump gobbled up Libertarians, who became government haters, but now DeSantis/Evangelicals recreating intrusive government. Maybe we can rebrand as "Libertarian Liberals", and lose the "Libertine" label (Liberty, Liberal, and Libertarian have the same etymology).